GUGGENHEIM: Weve won the lottery. They want to know what good teaching looks like and they want to emulate it. And I was hurt. endobj /MC0 37 0 R /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Guggenheim, Davis. It's about places that have failed for 30, 40, 50 years, we can't do the same thing this year that we did last year. What did you learn? /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] We'll come back and continue this. DAISYS GATHER: Yes. But, Mondello UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Next year, Anthonys class will move up to junior high. /Rotate 0 I said what I if I made a different kind of movie from a parents' point of view? [31] The most substantial distortion in the film, according to Ravitch, is the film's claim that "70 percent of eighth-grade students cannot read at grade level," a misrepresentation of data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress. /GS0 18 0 R NAKIA: I was disturbed. >> BRZEZINSKI: Thank you. >> SCARBOROUGH: This is a civil rights issue? We have to take ownership. RHEE: You know what, heres the thing. BRZEZINSKI: Welcome back. I mean, from my perspective, it really seemed like what was scary to people was this idea of beginning to differentiate folks. It reveals that the two major problems But this is the issue that I think Ive been hearing that I just want to get clear. /Parent 1 0 R /GS0 18 0 R You cannot say -- you can't say, well, the problem with charter schools is they only serve some of the kids when in fact you are advocating for caps on those effective charter schools. These are your schools, your communities. Film. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] So there are teachers who are having this debate within the spectrum of your organization. How do we let every kid -- SCARBOROUGH: There are two Americas. Why were you frightened to send her to school. RHEE: I don't think they are. Teaching standards are called into question as there is often conflicting bureaucracy between teaching expectations at the school, state, or federal level. << You can't do it with the district rules and the union contracts as they are in most districts. GUGGENHEIM: When the media asked me to make the film, I originally said no. She was a teacher in Indianapolis. [2] The film criticizes the American public education system by following several students as they strive to be accepted into competitive charter schools such as KIPP LA Schools, Harlem Success Academy and Summit Preparatory Charter High School. In response to this problem, many reformers, including Geoffrey Canada, have tried to look for solutions. I think sometimes there's a disconnect between them. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up So we're going to differentiate and we're going to recognize and reward the highest performing teachers and we're going to look at the lowest performing teachers and we're going to remove them from the system. >> The attendance and the schools itself. DAVIS GUGGENHEIM: No. SCARBOROUGH: Why are you going to get fired? I think we all need to take more responsibility. /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] /Parent 1 0 R There's a complete and utter lack of accountability for the job that we're supposed to be doing, which is producing results for kids. 57 percent of Daisys classmates won't graduate. They were the right things for kids but they made the adults incredibly uncomfortable. "[7] On Metacritic it has a score of 81% based on reviews from 31 critics, indicating "universal acclaim". [4][5][6] On Rotten Tomatoes the film has a "Certified Fresh" approval rating of 90% based on reviews from 118 critics. You believe it. Like around here, I mean, I want my kids to have better than what I had. First, I loved that town hall today. (soundbite of film, "big george foreman: the miraculous story of the once and future heavyweight champion of the world") KHRIS DAVIS: (As George Foreman) Last time they saw me, I looked like Superman. Feel free to edit or add to this page, as long as the information comes directly from the The superintendent wants her to say. There's a cap in New York State because ultimately when George Pataki and I and others started to work on having charter schools in this state, there was an issue in terms of the economics and what would happen with moneys in terms of other districts. This film follows five children and documents them to see what their lives and schools are like. RANDI WEINGARTEN, PRES., AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS: Sure. >> >> [8], Roger Ebert gave the film 3.5 stars out of 4 and wrote, "What struck me most of all was Geoffrey Canada's confidence that a charter school run on his model can make virtually any first-grader a high school graduate who's accepted to college. I get why that's good for the adults. BRZEZINSKI: Ill tell you right now, Randi, I want to know after the break why we can't use pay to inspire teachers. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Vergosa, Andrew. DAISYS FATHER: Go like this. /T1_1 20 0 R /Parent 1 0 R LEGEND: I think there needs to be an understanding in our community when we fight for our kids we're fighting for our community. 100 percent of the kids pass the science regions. You don't come off well in this movie. We have to go to break. SCARBOROUGH: They can't. GUGGENHEIM: Ive seen the movie hundreds of times. /T1_0 52 0 R /T1_0 24 0 R The issue here in terms of education -- SCARBOROUGH: Wait. We can't wait and talk about this another seven, eight, ten years. /GS0 47 0 R "[10] Joe Morgenstern, writing for The Wall Street Journal, gave the film a positive review writing, "when the future of public education is being debated with unprecedented intensity," the film "makes an invaluable addition to the debate. We've been talking about the teacher town hall hosted by Brian Williams earlier today. BRZEZINSKI: Why not inspire them with pay? We need to get involved and take ownership over this and go to the schools and tutor, go to the schools and mentor. /GS0 18 0 R UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The space with the Xs is for all of the fifth grade students moving into the sixth grade for next year. >> It is a revolution. >> We need to do a lot more of what Debbie Kenny is doing in that school but we need to do whats going on in lots and lots and lots of public schools because at the end of the day, every single teacher I know wants to make a difference in the lives of kids. SCARBOROUGH: Davis, let's begin with you. 6 0 obj And Im not going to pretend that you can just come in and snap your fingers and things are going to get better overnight. WebSynopsis. If Anthony goes to Souza, odds are he'll enter high school three to five grade levels behind. I'd like to follow up by asking you, that on "MEET THE PRESS" this morning, you said the union has taken steps to make teachers better, taken concrete steps. LEGEND: Yes. " YR0^hC#mlj'@]Gc2x}SVvP[sL,yD1-ut |c,{CG1 You went into the lottery system for your daughter. We're going to do it with a man who made this film and some of the people who were in it. /ExtGState << SCARBOROUGH: The reformer. RHEE: Heres the thing. WEINGARTEN: Let me -- SCARBOROUGH: If it wasn't about education, I mean, what was it about? /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Why is that? And the city of Indianapolis said you're the most effective ninth grade reading teacher in our city and we're going to give you a great reward, five days later they had to fire her because the contract said she's the youngest teacher and she has to go Now, there's no one -- bad person in the process. SCARBOROUGH: Last in, first out. BRZEZINSKI: What was wrong with what she was doing? ANTHONY: Its bittersweet to me. I think that we've all I mean Davis said it when he said he passed three public schools. SCARBOROUGH: And you also, your movie talks about how what's happening in some of these schools is demolished a lie, a bigoted lie that some kids are incapable of learning. Michelle and I love great teachers. /Font << /T1_1 20 0 R /Kids [ 4 0 R 5 0 R 6 0 R 7 0 R 8 0 R ] 1h 51m. >> RHEE: Were not going to be able to solve the problem going one city at a time. We're going to lose our nation. BEGIN VIDEO CLIP: NAKIA: I grew up in the public school system. RHEE: I'm just wondering, if the AFT was putting a million dollars into mayoral campaigns all across the country just based on who the teachers liked, I would buy that argument. We increased student achievement levels. /Font << But it's also frustrating when you know what's possible can't be replicated because there are barriers in the way. I like to follow the evidence. You cannot say we want more resources to go to kids when in fact in this city, Joel Klein is spilling $100 million a year to pay for teachers you saw it in the movie, who aren't actually teaching. /T1_1 20 0 R You are not exactly what some would consider to be a conservative filmmaker. SCARBOROUGH: Randi said the teachers wanted the tools to get the job done. LEGEND: Well, you know, there are plenty of constituencies that usually align with the union, for instance. WEINGARTEN: Yeah, of course. We're also joined by Deborah Canny of the Harlem Village Academy. BRZEZINSKI: Randi, really quickly. /Contents 33 0 R /T1_1 57 0 R BRZEZINSKI: Exactly. /T1_0 24 0 R You try to make reforms and it causes a problem. /GS1 17 0 R GUGGENHEIM: And fight for these kids. There are winners and losers. What are your thoughts? I support public schools. In some ways when we fought for sources for kids like my union did, we were fighting to help kids get what they needed. CANADA: The thing I think Chancellor Klein and Mayor Bloomberg have done, they really looked for people to come into the city who had a proven track record. We'll be joined also by Grammy award-winning singer/songwriter John Legend and our friend at "MORNING JOE" as well. I'm feeling it. What have you learned as somebody who isn't a professional educator on what we need to do? And systems that actually help create continuous improvement. Are you feeling agreement? Weve seen some innovation spread more than one place. It starts with teachers becoming the very best, leaders removing the barriers of change, neighbors committed to their school, you willing to act (Guggenheim 1:45:05-1:45:28). I went up there, Jeff Zucker pushed me to go up there one day. But it's not just Harlem -- if my movie, I call it, they're breaking a sound barrier. There's a problem with our system and who know that there are children in this country who are falling behind. BRZEZINSKI: Why didn't you want her to go to a regular public school in your neighborhood? stream Ht6R*bs7n& << WebShop for waiting for superman documentary transcript filetype:lua at Best Buy. 40 years later we're still fighting for equality and one of the biggest barriers to achieving quality is the fact that so many kids in our country can't get a great education. When I see from my own experience as a school teach are for six years when evaluations didn't work and less than 20 percent of them think that evaluations work right now. SCARBOROUGH: Geoffrey Canada, some remarkable things are happening in Harlem. We're turning to you now. "[30], Diane Ravitch, Research Professor of Education at New York University and a nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, similarly criticizes the film's lack of accuracy. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] So look, all of us on this stage, whether it's Geoffrey or Michelle or Davis, myself, the two of you, we all care passionately about the children. You said OK we're not going to penalize bad teachers. These students range in WebTRANSCRIPT: WAITING FOR SUPERMAN PANEL DISCUSSION WITH: NBC'S JOE SCARBOROUGH; NBC'S MIKA BRZEZINSKI;DAVIS GUGGENHEIM, DIRECTOR, But you did. >> /Type /Page I get to spend a lot of time with the kids. Where you tried to focus on good teachers in Washington. As part of lifting the cap they wanted to make sure that there was accountability for everyone. Have your mom and dad told you about the lottery? KENNY: Right. One of the reasons for the high test scores, writes Ravitch, is that many charter schools expel low-performing students to bring up their average scores. WebWaiting for Superman/Transcript. The filmmakers made sure to film how Nakia becomes increasingly more anxious and concerned as time passes during the lottery, but fewer spots become available and her daughters name has not been called (Guggenheim 1:32:49). SCARBOROUGH: OK. You talked about it. /Producer (Python PDF Library \055 http\072\057\057pybrary\056net\057pyPdf\057) You have to live in the district. Will they give him a million dollars for re-election if he keeps you in your position? I know they are. We're just saying --. It was about a whole range of other issues. What were your thoughts when the number did not come up? This scene is an important one because it highlights how the acceptance of students into charter schools is determined by the luck of the draw and how some students are not able to enter into the public school of their choice solely because luck was not on their side. One of them is Nakia. You get to the nation's capital, the nation's capital, only 16 percent of students are proficient in math. I have a 12-year-old that goes to public school. BRZEZINSKI: They were underperforming it. We decreased violent crimes that were happening in the schools. I cry for him sometimes. /ExtGState << Wouldn't that have been better? Waiting for 'Superman' the title refers to a Harlem educators childhood belief that a superhero would fix the problems of the ghetto won an Audience Award at Coming up next, MSNBC's going to re-air the teacher town hall hosted by Brian Williams. /Type /Page DAISY: Isnt that when people play and they win money. Because I know he's easily influenced to do things he shouldn't do. I want to ask you another really quick question and then go around to the rest of the panel. The Superman movie fans are waiting for Superman: Legacy will be released on 11 July 2025. That is the problem. 4,789 Views. BRZEZINSKI: No. BRZEZINSKI: What happens to these kids? John, tell us how you got involved in this. Though money doubled, reading and math scores have flat-lined. How do we spread that from Harlem across America? Take a moment. Be the first to contribute. "[23], Author and academic Rick Ayers lambasted the accuracy of the film, describing it as "a slick marketing piece full of half-truths and distortions" and criticizing its focus on standardized testing. GUGGENHEIM: Absolutely. We can't achieve equality or humanity and justice for everybody if we can't make sure that every kid gets a good education. SCARBOROUGH: Okay, Michelle -- WEINGARTEN: We agreed at times. Waiting for "Superman" is a 2010 American documentary film written and directed by Davis Guggenheim and produced by Lesley Chilcott. BRZEZINSKI: Its very hard to watch this movie. WEINGARTEN: The issue in terms of the D.C. election was our members and others really like Vincent Gray. In fact, those are the very areas where he has success. I think what's happened in places like Washington and I saw it compared to New York City. Since charter schools do not operate with the same restrictions as public institutions, they are depicted as having a more experimental approach to educating students. /Parent 1 0 R [31] Ravitch served as a board member with the NAEP and says that "the NAEP doesn't measure performance in terms of grade-level achievement," as claimed in the film, but only as "advanced," "proficient," and "basic." /MC0 31 0 R How do you get past that? The site's consensus states: "Gripping, heartbreaking, and ultimately hopeful, Waiting for "Superman" is an impassioned indictment of the American school system from An Inconvenient Truth director Davis Guggenheim. GUGGENHEIM: The issue is not just lousy teachers. Ravitch also writes that many charter schools are involved in "unsavory real estate deals" [31], In 2011, many news media reported on a testing score "cheating scandal" at Rhee's schools, because the test answer sheets contained a suspiciously high number of erasures that changed wrong answers to right answers. Because what is wrong with what he's saying? If I get in, they give me a better chance in life. Now it's happening in Houston. It's not about charter schools. SCARBOROUGH: Its about jobs. /Properties << /Resources << And what we're finding in some schools we should spread throughout all the schools in this nation. /Font << /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Acquiring that good education is the daunting challenge they face. /Pages 1 0 R CANADA: Well you know what? I'm joking. /MC0 28 0 R SCARBOROUGH: Why is it -- [ applause ] why is it that you have an area like Washington, D.C. that is 12 percent proficient in math? My kids have won the lottery. Thank you for joining us. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You see the cages up here. Coming up, right after we're finished here, MSNBC will re-air the two-hour town hall. But we need to have real evaluation systems, which is what the union has been focused on, so that teachers are really judged fairly. It was so heartbreaking to see her upset and all of the other children around her not being called and not being picked. That's what our union has been trying to do for the last two years. 2 0 obj Your last really big film was "Inconvenient Truth." Take a look. /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] The fact that there are currently not enough spaces in American schools should also be viewed as one of the primary factors defining their failure to meet the needs of students (Guggenheim). We're here at the site of our education nation summit launching today at NBC News and MSNBC. It affects good teachers, too. Because I seen what you do, Ive seen what Deborah Kinney has done, Ive seen what a lot of people have done out there and it seems to me, the model is find an extraordinary person, put them in a school, let them run that school. Because politically, these -- the things that we were doing, closing down schools, firing teachers, moving principals, those were not politically popular things to do. DAISYS FATHER: Come on, Daisy, cross your fingers. SCARBOROUGH: No doubt about it. /Properties << 10 Video Games That Need a Live Action Adaptation, 2023's Most Anticipated Sequels, Prequels, and Spin-offs. GUGGENHEIM: And the stakes for them. LESTE BELL, DAISYS TEACHER: She chose her college and she wrote a letter to the admissions and asking them to allow her to attend their college. BRZEZINSKI: It was still painful. << & CEO, HARLEM CHILDRENS ZONE: I think the real important issue for us to face as Americans is if we don't fix this, we will not remain a great country. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up Because there is no downside to failure. Because what's happened in so many instances, is that the evaluation system is what's broken. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] Many of them. Having made a film on the subject in 1999, documentary filmmaker. You think it was about -- let's be respectful. 4 0 obj It's must-see TV. BRZEZINSKI: What are you saying, Randi, what is he saying? schools. endobj SCARBOROUGH: Why would you spend a million dollars to defeat a mayor? Ravitch said that "cheating, teaching to bad tests, institutionalized fraud, dumbing down of tests, and a narrowed curriculum" were the true outcomes of Rhee's tenure in D.C. You know, in Washington, D.C., under Mayor Fenty who arguably I think is the most courageous politician we have on these education reform issues, we did everything, arguably, that people wanted to see. /Type /Page And it started to haunt me, the idea that kids in my own neighborhood, and I live in a pretty good neighborhood, aren't getting what my kids have. /XObject << [37] It criticizes some public figures featured in Waiting for "Superman", proposes different policies to improve education in the United States and counters the position taken by Guggenheim. Joe and I saw the movie a few days ago and we literally walked up Broadway, I think it was, in complete silence, both feeling very twisted and angry about what we had seen. There's a lot of people in this country that aren't feeling what we feel. I think he actually wants to do the right thing. It's going to be mommy's job to get you another school that's better. I have a good feeling about this. The film illustrates the problem of how American public schools are failing children, as it explicitly describes many public schools as drop-out factories, in which over 40% of students do not graduate on time. BRZEZINSKI: Youre outnumbered. /Type /Page There are also comparisons made between schools in affluent neighborhoods versus schools in poorer ones. And we need to have good evaluation systems. WEINGARTEN: Theres lots of -- look. /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] This is where the work gets tough, because innovation, this is about innovation. NAKIA: Yes. Last Friday night I watched Davis Guggenheims new documentary, Teach, which was broadcast in on CBS.Guggenheim, you may recall, is the filmmaker who brought us Waiting For Superman, the shameless propaganda-fest that signaled the full-on nuclear stage of the corporate-driven war on public education (also known as the It's shameful. << You fought the law and the law won. More importantly than our union, the new mayor is committed to it. "[13] Variety characterized the film's production quality as "deserving every superlative" and felt that "the film is never less than buoyant, thanks largely to the dedicated and effective teachers on whom Guggenheim focuses. That's amazing. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. Where does the union take some responsibility in this? Geoffrey Canada: I was like what do you mean he's not real. << Of course, Washington has problems going back decades. If I don't, Ill just be with my friends. What if I made a movie that gets people to care about other peoples children and fight for other people's children as much I fight for mine. And a lot of times some of the older civil rights organizations have historically aligned with the unions. It's a random selection. Nakia joins us here tonight. SCARBOROUGH: What have you learned since getting involved? And what teachers have told us is that focus instead on the tools and conditions we need to do our jobs. WEINGARTEN: The issue in terms of education is there's no turning back on reform in education in Washington, D.C. Our union is committed to it. Everyone in this room is feeling something powerful tonight. I think they put the money into this mayoral campaign because it was a symbol of reform in this country. Where has the union misstepped to help us get to where we are today? And it's just -- it changes your perspective. The contract says she has to go. /MediaBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] SCARBOROUGH: If you're going to lock kids in Harlem out of that process and let a few see the light and see the -- that seems to me to be immoral. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think she can do it? I said that's right, but that was mommy's choice to put you in that school. 1. 10 0 obj Waiting for Superman (song), a 2013 song by the American rock band Daughtry. SCARBOROUGH: All right, Davis, Davis, you said at the beginning you didn't want to get involved in this project. You all have your numbers, right? "[12] The Hollywood Reporter focused on Geoffrey Canada's performance as "both the most inspiring and a consistently entertaining speaker," while also noting it "isn't exhaustive in its critique. We need to have great curriculum. So it's important to understand how this is locked down here in D.C. and in New York. 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